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Date: August 21, 2004 01:47 PM
Author: the hobbit
Subject: Sealing the Northern Border
BELLINGHAM, Washington (AP) -- As part of a dramatic boost in surveillance of the Canadian border, federal officials Friday dedicated the first of five planned bases for regular flights to look for drug runners and others crossing illegally by air or land.
The Bellingham Air Marine Branch is to have a staff of nearly 70, two helicopters, an airplane and a high-speed boat by year's end. Similar bases have policed the Mexican border for three decades, but the new facility is the first on the Canadian border.
The five new bases, which will dot the border from Washington state to upstate New York, are a response to the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks as well as smuggling of illegal aliens and drugs, including British Columbia's potent strains of marijuana. Similar bases have policed the Mexican border for three decades.
"Smuggling is a two-way street," said Michael Milne, spokesman for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, part of the Department of Homeland Security. "We've got cocaine and money going north, B.C. bud and human smuggling coming south."
A second station in Plattsburgh, New York, is scheduled by the end of the year, Milne said, followed by bases near Detroit, Michigan; Grand Forks, North Dakota; and Great Falls, Montana.
The Bellingham base initially have only enough money to operate flights about eight hours a day.
"Our greatest asset right now is they don't know when we're going to be operating," said Mitch Pribble, a pilot and associate field director for the office.
The aircraft will allow agents to track suspicious flights where the pilot doesn't report to customs or talk on the radio. Federal pilots will follow such aircraft or direct agents on the ground.
Sen. Patty Murray, D-Washington, said Congress earmarked $35.2 million in the current fiscal year to get the Bellingham station up and running.
"I feel like the northern border is finally getting its due," Murray said.
ARE THEY KEEPING THEM OUT OR US IN?????????????
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Date: August 21, 2004 08:42 PM
Author: Keith Cowan
Subject: ARE THEY KEEPING THEM OUT OR US IN?????????????
Definitely trying to keep undesirable people and substances out. The border is actually just a ditch in some places and can be crossed with a running leap. This was no problem for the 150 years it has been that way but the world is changing rapidly.
What we need now is to raise the bar so that only real criminals can afford to circumvent the new measures. This would require private planes and coordination on both sides of the border. Simply a matter of money.
The really sad thing is that the Al Qaeda guys all entered the US through US ports. Homeland boys REALLY wanted to find that they came through Canada but it did not happen.
For the fun of it...Keith
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Date: August 26, 2004 04:24 PM
Author: Dr W
Subject: Guess they haven't been in the northern plains
Once I saw the Border sign in a field while phesant hunting.. Not even a fence just a little steel sign.
But it was a very long way to anywhere with a Canadian road or village.
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Date: August 21, 2004 02:04 PM
Author: James Hyland
Subject: Whitewash
Ahmed Ressam took the car ferry from BC to Washington enroute to attempting to bomb LAX. Would've made it too, if he hadn't been so nervous. Fat lot of good helicopters and speed boats would have been against this real threat. Just another example of Homeland Security's real agenda. We may be full of socialists and enemies of free speech up here in Canada, but we're more free than Americans in other ways. You heard it here first: American whites will try to emigrate to Canada in large numbers within a generation. And very welcome too, as far as I'm concerned; just please bring freedom for guns and speech with you.
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Date: August 22, 2004 02:16 PM
Author: Frank
Subject: Great white north.
Your point is well taken. I attended a seminar over a month ago which had several hundred attendees from all over north America and Europe. I had several conversations with an American that had a small family business who asked me for contact information regarding immigration to Canada as he has 2 teenage sons and is almost certain there will be a draft as Uncle Sam is in desperate need of more canon fodder. I put him onto the resources he was looking for.
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Date: August 24, 2004 12:56 AM
Author: Commandante
Pachuco
Señor frank...you better get those boys into Canada soon...Señor Ashcroft has plans to seal Canada to draft age peoples...hahaha....your taxes at work.
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Date: August 21, 2004 03:39 PM
Author: Finster
Subject: Seal Them All
Seal the northern borders, the southern borders, the airports, the sea ports, seal everything.
Once we get the holes plugged, then establish a sane immigration policy that allows immigration to the extent population drops below a preset threshold.
Now if Mexico and Canada had secure borders themselves, all three countries could drop controls on all borders within North America and allow free movement anywhere on the continent. From Greenland to the Panama Canal to the Bering Strait, you could have a single immigration policy. But even this would require that government programs that draw social welfare seekers from one area to another be dropped so that you don't wind up with everybody trying to crowd into one place. Nahhh, never work. Stick with Plan A.
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Date: August 21, 2004 03:57 PM
Author: william apthorpe
Subject: amen
If you people worked the border, you, too, would agree with Plan A. 13 years I've been there and I'm completely convinced that Canada is THE problem.
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Date: August 21, 2004 04:30 PM
Author: the hobbit
Subject: How So
Why do you feel Canada is the Problem, moreso that Mexico or the U.S.?
Finster, you seem to be to the right of me. I favor intelligent immigration of younger skilled workers. Are you an " America Firstster" or the last surviving member of the "Know nothing" party?
Who know, perhaps next a living "Shaker" will appear.
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Date: August 21, 2004 04:46 PM
Author: Finster
Subject: Hobbit
Friends tell me I'm to the right of Attila the Hun. So that wouldn't be a first. ;-) But actually, I take positions commonly identified with the left on some issues; for example some people might call me a "green" conservative, because I agree with what much of the environmental movement says.
The immigration issue ties in to this. As a conservative and libertarian, I want smaller government and greater freedom. As an environmentalist, I want clean air, water, and land. And the only way you can have those latter things without conflicting with the former things is to not be overpopulated.
We really only have a certain limited number of choices:
Since I favor neither a crowded, polluted and unhealthy environment nor extensive governmental regulations and limitations on personal freedom, the only option left is to stop increasing the population.
And the only way to stop increasing the population short of mass sterilization is to get immigration under control.
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Date: August 21, 2004 06:02 PM
Author: the hobbit
Subject: Actually
I think GB's point about our being too resource intensive is more telling than the argument that we're overpopulated- compared to elsewhere in the world, we have underpopulation.
I won't hold your "Mongolian" tendencies aginst you.
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Date: August 21, 2004 06:06 PM
Author: Finster
Subject: GB's Point
I completely agree with GB's point. No one has explained why the American people should be asked to reduce their standards of living in order to accommodate millions more people within their own country.
You're a good guy, Hobbit.
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Date: August 21, 2004 08:07 PM
Author: the
hobbit
Subject: Although it seems
that our standards of living ar being insidiously, reduced. My niece and her fiance , soon to be married, both employed, are unable to acquire a house in the suburbs of NYC. Twenty years ago when I was in that position I was able to buy a detached house in Little Neck on 40x100. I don't see that happening for them- not in NY
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Date: August 21, 2004 04:47 PM
Author: GB
Subject: US Lifestyle Is Too Resource Intense
The US lifestyle is very resource intense. I think it is irresponsible to continue to inflate the population when you consider this. The environment won't sustain a US population that is much higher than what we now have (or what we have now, perhaps...).
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Date: August 21, 2004 10:33 PM
Author: Vangel Vesovski
Subject: What borders?
Unless you are crossing over the pole you can only enter Canada by taking an ocean liner, airplane or coming from the US. Canada's borders are a hell of a lot more secure than your border with Mexico. It seems to me that Pat Buchanan was correct when he pointed out that the best way to protect yourselves from attack is to stop interfering with the politics of other nations and let them work out their own problems.
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Date: August 22, 2004 08:04 AM
Author: b patton
Vangel, I agree with you 100%.
In today's news we are told that a tunnel has been discovered running from Mexico under the border to Texas!!
Have you ever been to Texas??? been to towns near the border?? 99.9% of all jobs are held by Mexicans and most of them, I am sure, are illegal. Have you ever been to San Antonio? City of The Alamo? more Mexicans than white Americans.
San Antonio Immigration Department was closed 5 times 3 years ago for audit. My file was lost twice in San Antonio and I had to re-apply twice and pay them twice. My son's file was lost and after re-applying again was eventually found in Missouri!!.
I know nothing of the Canadian border so I shall keep quiet, however, this neck of the woods it is the easiest thing in the world for anyone and everyone to walk over the border. Slip a coupla bucks to the Mexican border staff and Buddy! no problemo!
Last but not least - American women being the more aggresive sex are more interested in their plastic surgery and their body image than having children, having said that it stands to reason that the birth rate is actually controlled by your women in this country.
Because men have idolized the gargantuan breasts of the likes of Pamela Anderson and Dolly Parton their women folk are hell bent and determined to ape these very "icons" to keep the men interested in them insodoing there are fewer children (white) in this country. What a shame! what a shambles!
On the other hand the Mexicans are having babies every 11 months, girls of 14 and 15 waltz to school pregnant and are more than happy to overpopulate Texas and eventually America.
I asked a Mexican girl once "Why don't you go to Maine, Vermont, North Dakota?? her answer was so simple "WE mexicans don't like the cold - we like it where it is hot" It is as simple as that.
My attorney in Dallas told me that the Department of Homeland security and the Immigration Department have amalgamated - whenever I ask her what is happening to my file? she says that it is very difficult to know exactly who and where to get answers!!
I rest my case.
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Date: August 22, 2004 08:43 AM
Author: Finster
Subject: Right, B.
Right, B. That about the last thing America needs. We have enough people now. Remember that next time some politician is telling you they need to raise your taxes or invoke eminent domain in order to build more roads, or your electric company is raising your rates because they need to beef up the power grid, your local authorities declare water rationing, or that your gas or oil went up because the new refinery cost two billion dollars to meet environmental standards, or local taxes went up to build new schools, or medical bills are out of sight because hospitals are going broke giving free care to indigent immigrant girls having their babies...
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Date: August 24, 2004 01:03 AM
Author: Commandante
Pachuco
(Mexican music in background)...El Pachuco singing happily and stomping his boots in dancing..."I want to live in A-mer-i-ca.....I love want to work in A-mer-i-ca....that is my new home in A-mer-i-ca....hahaha...Olé!!!
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Date: August 25, 2004 09:11 AM
Author: gosfield
Subject: Beer kept cold in the snow
Hockey Night in Canada on the TV (plugged in by a 100' orange extension cord) campfire to keep the toes warm, beers stuck in the snow to keep 'em cold, toque on my head, snowmobile boots ... ahhh! A new appreciation for the cold Canadian winter. The masses won't come this far north. Eh!
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Date: August 24, 2004 02:04 AM
Author: Lucius Foster
Subject: The time has come to change the legal eagle
b patton noh Clare
I would suggest that you change your legal representative as soon as possible. I know not from whence you came but the files are easily to hand.
Seriously Lucius
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Date: August 24, 2004 04:55 AM
Author: b patton
I have the best at the moment in Dallas- At my last meeting with the INS in Dallas the "interviewer" laughed when she told me that my file was a different color because it had been mislaid (lost) twice.. They have it - they just don't bother to finalize my case. I come from South AFrica I think that is where the trouble lies.
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Date: August 24, 2004 12:05 AM
Author: Dan Osborne
Subject: Elite interest verses National interest?
It is in the interest for elites to have cheap labor and to have immigrant labor to destroy any unity of the home population. It is that simple.
I could stop illegal immigration in a week.
Once again I could stop it in a week..
Just hire about 100,000 immigration cops. We can make it 20,000 if you want to be cheap. And they start checking papers etc of all workers. If a illegal is found the EMPLOYER is prosecuted and goes to jail of a min of one year.
Problem solved. My dear freinds in the border services you guys are just part of the game and of course on the front lines wasting your time.
Some obvious points, once you have a third world population you have a third world country. This is something you can't just fix back without a whole lot of ethnic cleansing. Once done you pay for ever and ever, the big guys will just move to Switzerland with their mistresses and wives to fat numbered accounts but the rest of us will be stuck in the hell. The USA is heading toward a south american population demographic.
With over population you simply get more people for the same amount of resources. This is true world wide, hince less for each person and a gradual third/forth world living status for each of us world wide. Of course whites won't go gently to that good night and there will be a struggle.
The christans and leftists can't face up to these simple truths. Former is waiting for the rapture the later thinks we all are the same in this endless world.
Personally I think if a slightly more democratic nation was in the USA the USA people would fight against this overpopulation and emmigration.
We did learn our lesson with the black slavery in the USA's history. That sin of lazy greed has cost the USA dearly ever since, but when a elite can pack up bags and coin and move away at will such lessons have little meaning.
Dan
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Date: August 24, 2004 12:56 AM
Author: The Reaper !
Subject: Dan Osborne & The Elites
Listen my friend , it's not just the elites who are benefiting from what is happening . A good 40% of this countries population is also benefiting quite nicely from all of this cheap labor . Eventually enough people will become down trodden enough , and vote in a new regime . Then and only then will the pendulum will begin to swing the other way . Until that day , labor in this country is pretty much screwed . Capitalism and Communism were a kind of Ying & Yang , today we just have the Ying with no Yang . You know what they say about total power ? The Reaper !
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Date: August 24, 2004 08:26 PM
Author: Finster
Subject: Reaper's Benefit
Agreed. But the benefit is sort of like the benefit of a big slug of borrowed money in your bank account - it's unsustainable.
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Date: August 24, 2004 11:07 PM
Author: Goldtwofingers
Subject: Frank's canon fodder
"Uncle Sam is in desperate need of more canon fodder"
More so the Church, than Uncle Sam, one guesses.
Anyway, Australasia begins to have its attractions.
'Bring to me your graduates, your healthy, your wealthy and fit....'
Or have a go in the refugee ballot.
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